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$500 million and countingIn this Wytpod episode, Harshit Gupta interviews James Camilleri, CEO of Fyorin, a platform that simplifies cross-border payments and financial operations for global businesses. They discuss James’s decade-long experience in FinTech, Fyorin’s integration of banking and accounting to streamline financial processes, and emerging trends like AI and blockchain. Targeting companies with $10-50 million in revenue, Fyorin focuses on e-commerce and multi-currency operations. The conversation highlights effective growth strategies and anticipates significant B2B innovation in FinTech over the next decade, offering valuable insights for digital marketing professionals.
Fyorin is a platform that streamlines cross-border payments and financial operations for global businesses, enhancing efficiency and automation.
Hello everyone. Welcome to another episode of wytpod. My name is Harshit and I’m the director of business alliances at wytlabs. We’re a digital agency specializing in SaaS and e-commerce SEO.
I’ve got James with me today. . He’s a co-founder and CEO at Fyorin, a brilliant payment and financial operations platform for global businesses. So big welcome to you, James. So happy to have you with me. Thank you. Thanks for the invite.
Great. Now, James, we’d love to start with your journey. You’ve had pretty brilliant exposure to FinTech specifically. Let’s talk about that. Would love to hear.
Yes. Yeah. So my journey in fintech started around about 10 years ago. I used to work for a fintech company in the UK.
And essentially I also moved out as it’s a bit outside of the fintech. So I also worked a bit in the e-commerce space but I was always close to the fintech world. I think what actually really Draws me to this space is that the ability or having to solve a problem in terms of how money moves, right?
And FinTech is essentially right in the middle of that. Whatever you’re doing as a business, whether you’re in e-commerce, whether in retail, you always need to get paid and to get paid and also pay. So the ability or being that. Disillusion to facilitate that is something that always had fascinated me.
Now, Fyorin is known for its comprehensive financial operations, right? I would love to understand, can you please elaborate on how it simplifies, your cross border payments and financial operations for global businesses?
Yes. So essentially, if you look, if today, if you look at an international business, typically in order for you to operate internationally, you will have to interact with different financial institutions.
A secondary bank, an FX provider, maybe a lender, also a card expense management platform. Now, what’s the challenge with that? The challenge is that you have treasury being fragmented across different financial institutions, which means that it slows you down when it comes to reconciliation. And when it comes into also automation, so we saw that pain point. We developed a payment and a financial operations platform where we had international businesses to automate their movement of money and also diversify their treasury across a global network of financial institutions.
And I give you an example of this. So let’s say a company based out of the UK. We onboard them, we provide them with the localised accounts in the UK. They can connect their existing accounts also, let’s say with Barclays or any other account. But then let’s say this business wants to go and expand into, let’s say the US.
Instead of actually go and find the right banking partner in the US, with one click of a button, we provide them with localised bank accounts. We provide them with localised cards. And the beauty of that is that everything is connected to our accounting platform. So we’re going to have Zero, QuickBooks, NetSuite Dynamics, SAP, and you can automate payables and also receivables.
Gotcha
So then one platform where you can automate your payables, automate your receivables, your current expense management, and also you can automate your treasury management. So you can operate globally as if you operate locally. So I’m asking it, but
In fact, James, one of the things that in fact I’ve also personally experienced is that, whenever you’re using any such platform, there’s a huge percentage of commission that the platform takes per transaction as well.
Is it something that you’re also trying to like, just project by your platform as a core it’s called USP what’s the situation with you guys?
Yeah. (04:04 – 04:46) So essentially with our platform, it’s all about automation. It’s all about efficiency. So essentially it’s all about how we can help you to transact globally and to keep what’s done as much as possible.
And this is reflected in the pricing structure. So we have a tiered SaaS. Pricing, right? Where the more payments you do, the less essentially you pay, but it’s not just about the pricing, but it’s also about the efficiency that we bring. So when you call neck, for example, with directly with the accounting platform, so that from accounting platform, you can select the bills that needs to pay, right?
We pick them up and we distribute the payments. So there is no need to upload any files. There’s no need to go to the bank and actually key in the payments. We’ve seen that customers, we’ve seen customers up to 85 percent of the accounts where we process. So that is time when that, that your team, can actually use to do more strategic, doing more strategic stuff.
Gotcha! Let’s talk about some, specific challenges. Anything that you encounter when developing your platform and how did you address them at least on the initial stage?
Yes, like any other business, there are a number of challenges, right? I think there are different challenges at different stages of the company.
In the early stages, it’s all about also finding your product market fit, right? So I think one of the things that we did in the early stage, which we did very well, is that We spoke to a lot of businesses, right? A lot of, for example, finance people, which is the person that we actually sent to, where we’re trying to understand what are they doing today, right?
What are they doing today around payables? What are they doing today around receivables, around treasury management? And how can we actually solve that, right? Or if we have to build a solution, how are we actually going to solve their pain points? And that is something that was at an early stage and something that I think today it’s really big also a lot of a lot of benefits.
And James, help me understand your target ICP. Which specific industries are you targeting currently? Like primarily targeting, I’m sure There must be like a really broad use case altogether for you, but from a market standpoint and your sales standpoint what are those specific industries?
What are those specific groups of people that you’re primarily focusing on?
Yes. So in terms of the ICP, we target companies that are, that have Two or more different currencies. They’re operating in different jurisdictions and practically companies that are doing 10, 10 million to 50 million of turnover per year those type of companies that we actually target we can abort companies in over 92 different jurisdictions.
So there isn’t much limitation in terms of jurisdiction and primarily we work in the e-commerce space. In the affiliate space also shipping private aviation. So all those businesses that are operating internationally.
Okay. Okay. Now with your experience in both FinTech and e-commerce, what do you see as a the biggest trend in international financial operations and payments right now?
I think the biggest trend is, it’s the AI, right? So there’s the buzzword of AI. I think it’s very interesting, but we have still to understand essentially how it will help us to scale also at, when you’re doing business cross border.
So that’s something that, but I think it definitely help out when it comes down to, for example. Doing transaction monitoring way much better, right? Which means that customers can transact globally way much faster.
Yeah. And I think blockchain is pretty big, in your industry, right?
Correct. Yes. Specifically around, for example, in Europe there is the regulation that And on the Mecap, for example, where we’re seeing that also like something like Saber coins is actually also picking up a lot. We as a company, we don’t do anything with blockchain.
But I think this is something that, yes, something that is very much the fintech space is moving also. I would say it’s something that’s probably in the future that will be coming.
Gotcha. And what are some key considerations for businesses looking to expand internationally in terms of financial operations?
What would your advice?
Yes. I think the key considerations will be that There is a lot of manual work being involved, right? So when you are actually looking into expanding the new market, it’s not just about finding the right banking partner, but it’s also about what comes with all that, the manual work around payables, the manual work around receivables, right?
So reconciliations. demand work around compliance, which typically is it’s a hidden cost, right? So if you are interacting with different financial institutions, you have to deal with different banks that have different compliance requirements. So typically what we’ve seen is that companies that are going internationally, they end up hiring or getting in more people to do all this manual work, right?
Yeah. And what’s it ends up happening is that your operational costs are will actually will increase, right? So this is one of the concentrations I would say that companies that are going internationally should look for that how they can actually go and penetrate international markets while keeping their operational costs low as much as possible.
Now, your company has pretty rapidly scaled across various regions, right? So what strategies, so when it comes to marketing mainly, have been most effective in achieving this global growth?
Yes, it’s a very good question. So we managed to grow a lot through organically so customers referring us as their customers also.
Word of mouth, but essentially we also managed to grow through our network that we have, of course we also do SEO primarily where essentially from our side we, as much as possible, try to position ourselves. as the leaders in, in, in the areas that we are actually operating in.
And how often do you participate in these thought leadership and events is it something which is under your radar and part of your co marketing strategy as well?
Yes. Something that the more we actually grow, the more it is becoming more on our radar. So this is something that we always look for these type of events.
Some event that will get us in front of the right audience. And so this is something that’s very much on our radar, I would say.
Yeah, I think, you’ve got a pretty like at least early background was into, business development sales and all and plus like you’re a good speaker. So I think those things are something, gonna definitely help you propel and move forward better.
I would so yeah. All right. Now, I would love to discuss, are there any specific market gaps or opportunities that Fyorin has successfully capitalized on?
Yes. I think, I would say it’s market opportunities, but I think Fyorin capitalized a lot on markets where they’re very much fragmented.
For example, if you look at South of Europe, for example, the market is very much fragmented, right? And companies are finding it harder every day in order to operate internationally in those markets. And then a platform like ours, where we have a global network of financial institutions, where you as a business, you can interact with different financial institutions as if you’re interacting with one.
This is something that helps a lot of businesses because they can move faster. Now they can actually grow a much faster. And essentially we want our solution to be an enabler for an enabler for growth, right? This is, that is something that, so we’re going back to our question and we see opportunities where the market is very much fragmented in AIS where.
Getting paid or get paid is super hard. I think, and I think this is the opportunities where if you are essentially going after.
Now please help me understand your approach to business development and partnership as well in order to, just enhance your service offering, expand your global network.
Yes. From our side, we always try to partner up with you. partners that are closer to our customers, right? So we have our ideal customer profile, but typically we partner a lot with, for example, resellers or accounting firms, right? Again, accounting firms, they are close to the businesses that we’re actually after and also not just make a good advocate for us, but also a good a good channel to provide us or get us business.
Now, as a proven track record in scaling companies what is your approach to building and managing high performing teams?
Yes. I think it’s one, one, one building and performing high performing teams, I think is one important thing is that defying the clear objectives of what we want to do as a company.
I think that is very important, but secondly, is also bringing indirect people on board. Because this is having a company is essentially it’s a marathon. So the sprint, so you’re always going to be have, you’re going to always have the ups and downs. So bringing in the right company and having clear objectives of where you want to go, I think this is going to be very important because then people can essentially use their unique skills to actually get the company from point A to point B.
Gotcha. All right. Now, how do you foster a culture of innovation and resilience within, Fyorin, and especially because it’s a rapidly evolving industry, right? You’re in tech space on technology.
Yes. So first and foremost, I think when it comes to innovation, we always listen to what the market is telling us, right?
To what our customers are telling us, what our prospects are telling us but also to our internal teams. So for example, if we launch a particular product. We go back to the team and say, okay, this is the feedback that we’re getting, right? In some cases, we can suggest how we can improve it.
And so forth. So I think one of the things that we do is I think that to do very well is to listen always for improvements, whether this is coming in from internal things, whether it’s coming in from the outside teams, et cetera.
Alright. Now what are some of the key leadership lessons that you have learned from, your diverse experience across multiple industries and multiple job roles?
Yes. I think this stands up what I was saying earlier. I think two things. So first and foremost having clear communication, right? I think this is something very important ’cause you can have great ideas, but you need to know how to communicate these ideas. But secondly, it’s also about listening.
You also need to be paranoid about and understanding the environment around you, right? So listening to what your customers are saying, listening to what your people are saying. So that you can actually move ahead in some cases. I still don’t know if companies are trying to push a product because the customer doesn’t want them.
I think those two things, so listening and communicating clearly.
And talking about. Your business goals and also like your marketing goals. So 12 months down the line, where exactly do you want to see Fyorin at what benchmark that you have set?
Yeah, we definitely have a lot of goals. I think what we’ve done so far is we’ve scaled to a number of jurisdictions. So I think in the next 12 months, we want to continue to actually accelerate that that growth, right? We want to tap into new different markets. Markets also verticals that today we are not stepping into.
So from our side, we want, of course, to double down. I want to continue to double down on what we are doing and accelerate our growth to new markets, which will, of course, it will help us to accelerate more our revenue.
And James, any specific strategies that you have around your customer retention side of things and how’s it shown in your company right now?
Yeah. So we have a very low chain no portfolio. And I think it’s because going back to what I was saying earlier, it’s about understanding your customers, understanding their pain points and providing a solution Fits what they’re after. So I think this is something which is important and something that even not just with Fyorin, but even the other companies that I work with, understanding your customer needs is always very important.
And so in order for you to achieve success that you would need.
And are there any upcoming features or project at Fyorin that you’re particularly excited about and share with us?
There are a couple we’d like to keep it under wraps, but I would say we are launching a number of products that will enable businesses to move faster, right?
So for us, it’s all about efficiency. It’s all about automation, but we’re essentially, we have products in the pipeline that will help business to move faster.
And what’s your name? What our space on LinkedIn, . And what do you think, like in the next five to 10 years when it comes to specifically within the FinTech space, that landscape anything that you feel is gonna change majorly?
Any thoughts on that?
Yes. I think if you look in the FinTech in the early days there was a lot of push on the business to consumer B2C. And I think there’s more now it’s mature as a space, but I think the B2B side of things is still there’s still opportunities still not yet mature as a B2C and I think in the next five, 10 years we’re going to see more and more improvements coming in on the B2B side of things.
Where it’s all about how can a business operate internationally in a very smooth way? So I think I’ll force it in the next five, 10 years. There’s going to be more tools on the Infintek and on the B2B side of things. Gotcha.
Gotcha. All right, James, so we’re coming to an end now. I would love to have a quick rapid fire with you.
Are you ready for that?
Sure.
Shoot. What habit holds you back the most?
What habits?
Yeah, I’m addicted to chocolate, I think. So
What subject do you find to be most fascinating apart from fintech? Don’t say fintech.
Very difficult. I still find fintech very fascinating. I think I’m, I learn every day yeah I would go with fintech.
Yeah. All right.What career did you dream of having as a kid?
My dream as a kid was to be actually become a commercial pilot.
Okay, interesting. All right now if you could use only one social media for the rest of your life for your personal use Of course, all right Which would it be?
I think i’ll use linkedin Because I think first and foremost have you know, a lot of users are actually on
LinkedIn is becoming more of a lot of communities being built up from linkedin and I think the world has become a very small place And communities are becoming more and more important.
Yeah. Makes sense. All right. Now going to our very last question. What’s your last Google search?
What’s the last Google search? Interesting. I think the last Google search was about looking at fueling statistics. That is what my Google search, my last Google search was.
Thank you so much, James.I really enjoyed this conversation. Thank you for taking time out for this and sharing your wonderful experiences about your company. And I wish you all the very best. Hope you grow. Thank you so much for having me. It was a pleasure. Thank you. Thank you so much.
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